tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post8520984540142935618..comments2024-02-10T07:26:14.917-05:00Comments on Baha'i Faith in Egypt: Egypt Plunges Deeper into the AbyssUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-91582725450887736952006-12-17T11:59:00.000-05:002006-12-17T11:59:00.000-05:00"...for I have pledged Myself not to forgive any m..."...for I have pledged Myself not to forgive any man's injustice. This is My covenant which I have irrevocably decreed in the preserved tablet and sealed with My seal....."<br /><br />This is an indisputable promise of God. It is only a matter of time....Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-20870540619865804562006-12-16T22:09:00.000-05:002006-12-16T22:09:00.000-05:00Those Baha'is who read this blog and follow the de...Those Baha'is who read this blog and follow the developments in Egypt should take heart from The Hidden Words (al-Kalimat al-maknunah), in which God, may He be praised, says: "O OPPRESSORS ON EARTH! Withdraw your hands from tyranny, for I have pledged Myself not to forgive any man's injustice. This is My covenant which I have irrevocably decreed in the preserved tablet and sealed with My seal." This court will be judged by a higher Judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-42134492104985615022006-12-16T21:06:00.000-05:002006-12-16T21:06:00.000-05:00What an anarchy! How could any lawyer walk off fro...What an anarchy! How could any lawyer walk off from the street and join a case? How could that happen? Who is in control of that court?<br /><br />I hear that one of them will appear on a television program this coming Tuesday to argue against Dr. Basma's scheduled interview! God Help her and give her strength...I have full confidence that she can easily handle the situation without shedding a drop of sweat!Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-53662336570419145412006-12-16T20:27:00.000-05:002006-12-16T20:27:00.000-05:00I still didnt collect enough energy after this lon...I still didnt collect enough energy after this long day to write any thoughts. I have a very small comment though out of fairness since I witnessed the whole thing first-hand. The shouting bearded men were not affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. They were fanatic lawyers who decided to join the case for reasons that I assume personal to them.<br /><br />It was indeed a sad day for Egypt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-39414744054365123582006-12-16T13:03:00.000-05:002006-12-16T13:03:00.000-05:00As requested by the first comment, here is the com...As requested by the first comment, here is the complete text of the press release in Arabic announcing the verdict. The names of the justices ruling on the case are one and the same who had produced the State's commissioner's report...thus "the fox is guarding the hens' house."<br /><br />The full text of the ruling will be available in a few days....<br /><br />الإدارية العليا<br />إلغاء حكم محكمة القضاء الإداري بالاعتراف بالبهائية <br />وعدم جواز إثباتها في أي مستند صادر من الجهات الرسمية في الدولة<br /><br />حسمت المحكمة الإدارية العليا أمس موضوع البهائية واصدرت حكمها بإلغاء الحكم الذي أصدرته محكمة القضاء الإداري في شهر ابريل الماضي الذي اعترف بالبهائية كديانة وإثباتها أمام خانة الديانة في شهادات الميلاد والبطاقات الشخصية وغيرها من الوثائق التي تصدرها مصلحة الأحوال المدنية .<br />وقالت المحكمة الإدارية العليا في حكمها أن الدساتير المصرية المتعاقبة كفلت حرية العقيدة وحرية إقامة الشعائر الدينية ، مشيرة إلى أن الأديان التي يحمى الدستور حرية القيام بشعائرها وحسبما ورد بالأعمال التحضيرية لدستور 1923 في المادتين 12 و 13 منه اللتين تعتبران الأصل الدستوري لجميع النصوص التي تضمنتها الدساتير المتعاقبة _ هي الأديان السماوية الثلاثة ، الإسلام والمسيحية واليهودية ، أما البهائية فهي كما اجمع أئمة المسلمين وقضاء المحكمتين الدستورية العليا والإدارية العليا ليست من الأديان السماوية المعترف بها وان من يدين بها من المسلمين يعتبر مرتدا لكون مبادئها تناقض مبادئ الدين الإسلامي وأصوله ، كما تناقض سائر الأديان السماوية . وقد حرم معتنقوها الجهاد المقرر في الشريعة الإسلامية تحريما قاطعا ومطلقا ، فهم يريدون للأمم والشعوب أن تسلم عنقها لجلاديها بدون أيه مقاومة ، في مقابل كلام شاعري معسول بالدعوة إلى إقامة حكومة عالمية هي الهدف الأول والأساسي لحركة البهائية وهذا احد أسرار علاقتهم بالقوى الاستعمارية _ قديمها وحديثها _ التي تحتضنهم وتدافع عنهم . كما شرع معتنقوها لأنفسهم شريعة خاصة تهدر أحكام الإسلام في الصوم والصلاة ونظام الأسرة . ولم يقف مؤسسوها عند حد ادعاء النبوة والرسالة معلنين أنهم رسل يوحى إليهم من العلى القدير ، منكرين أن سيدنا محمد عليه الصلاة والسلام أخر الأنبياء والمرسلين ، بل جاوزوا ذلك وادعوا الإلوهية وهو ما دعا المشرع إلى إصدار القانون رقم 263 لسنة 1960 بحل جميع المحافل البهائية ومراكزها الموجودة في البلاد ، والتي قضت المحكمة الدستورية العليا بعدم مخالفته للدستور.<br />وانتهت المحكمة إلى انه لما كانت البهائية لا تعد ديانة، فانه لا يجوز لمصلحة الأحوال المدنية إثباتها أمام خانة الديانة في جميع المستندات والوثائق التي تصدرها كشهادات الميلاد وبطاقات شخصية وغيرها ، كما لا يجوز أثباتها في أي مستندات رسمية أخرى تصدرها أي من الجهات الرسمية بالدولة ويكون ضمن بيانتها البيان الخاص بالديانة ، وبحسبان أن النصوص القانونية المنظمة لهذه القواعد جميعها تعتبر من النظام العام فلا يجوز إثبات ما يخالفه ويتعارض معه في بلد يقوم أصله وأساسه على الشريعة الإسلامية . <br /><br />صدر الحكم برئاسة المستشار / السيد نوفل رئيس مجلس الدولة ورئيس المحكمة وعضوية المستشارين / عصام عبد العزيز ومصطفى حنفي وعبد الحليم القاضي واحمد عبود نواب رئيس مجلس الدولة وبحضور المستشار عبد القادر قنديل مفوض الدولة وبأمانة سر كمال نجيب .Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-90161492881810651822006-12-16T12:47:00.000-05:002006-12-16T12:47:00.000-05:00Thank you Marco, I am sure that they all apprecia...Thank you Marco, I am sure that they all appreciate your sincere feelings, and welcome your friendship.Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-17648710019718330552006-12-16T12:39:00.000-05:002006-12-16T12:39:00.000-05:00This was a shameful day for Egypt!
But let the Bah...This was a shameful day for Egypt!<br />But let the Baha'is in Egypt know that they are not alone!Marco Oliveirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17869587541406850153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-86333479154988326402006-12-16T10:20:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:20:00.000-05:00Barney,
This is deeply touching and loving...the f...Barney,<br />This is deeply touching and loving...the friends in Egypt will certainly want to hear that, and know that they are never alone.Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-73068838346887155942006-12-16T10:19:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:19:00.000-05:00O SON OF MAN!
My calamity is My providence, out...O SON OF MAN! <br /> <br />My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy. Hasten thereunto that thou mayest become an eternal light and an immortal spirit. This is My command unto thee, do thou observe it.<br /><br />-- Bahá'u'lláh, Hidden WordsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-55688325298848142882006-12-16T10:16:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:16:00.000-05:00Egyptian Baha'is--living in Egypt--must be congrat...Egyptian Baha'is--living in Egypt--must be congratulated and truly admired for their courage, endurance, tenacity and absolute dedication to their beliefs. No one can imagine how deplorable the conditions they endure on a daily basis just to survive!Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-18029235374339062502006-12-16T10:10:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:10:00.000-05:00Having received the news, our National Spiritual A...Having received the news, our National Spiritual Assembly paused in its meeting earlier today to pray for the friends in Egypt. There was a moment of deep stillness, and tears were shed. But we also recognized that this gives us further amazing opportunities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-20013796444025679292006-12-16T10:08:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:08:00.000-05:00Anonymous said:
"It is really interesting to see t...Anonymous said:<br />"It is really interesting to see the first photo in your blog of the judge sitting and behind him a large sign with a verse from the holly Quran that says In the name of God the all merciful. If you judge among men let you judge in justice…"<br /><br />Obviously the judges sitting under that sign are either oblivious to its meaning or completely blinded by the lack of objectivity. For a judge to be "just" it takes an independent mind, a pure heart and ethical responsibility and integrity. Their actions clearly demonstrate the total lack of all these prerequisites.Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-89011064727267155672006-12-16T10:01:00.000-05:002006-12-16T10:01:00.000-05:00as an Egyptian bahai
we feel that it is God mercy ...as an Egyptian bahai<br />we feel that it is God mercy & god needs more & more from us & we need ur prayer for next hard days. but be sure that we expected that from last issue 2-12-2006 but we expected any changes. this is god mercy again we must start to think<br />for next stepAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-28576978429345809932006-12-16T09:34:00.000-05:002006-12-16T09:34:00.000-05:00I see the wisdom of the decision and its role in e...I see the wisdom of the decision and its role in exposing the degree of injustice that fundamentalism is bringing to the world, but I can not help thinking about the impact of the decision on the everyday lives of the brave Egyptian Bahá’ís.<br /><br />I agree with the previous comment, and can not wait for the time when we can all live in peace and amity together as one human raceNesreen Akhtarkhavarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13800403091039130239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-10868120554853204402006-12-16T09:17:00.000-05:002006-12-16T09:17:00.000-05:00This verdict will not sustain the current wave of ...This verdict will not sustain the current wave of social change that is pervading todays world order. It highlights the short sightedness and ignorance of the court.The outcome was guarded by fear and love for fundamentalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-82869935878838100002006-12-16T09:11:00.000-05:002006-12-16T09:11:00.000-05:00It is really interesting to see the first photo in...It is really interesting to see the first photo in your blog of the judge sitting and behind him a large sign with a verse from the holly Quran that says In the name of God the all merciful. If you judge among men let you judge in justice…<br /><br />Obviously God has a grandeur plan for His glorious cause and we eagerly wait with confident hearts and faithful souls. The sun of truth WILL shine and justice will prevail. <br /><br />With my sincere prayers for our Bahá’i sisters and brothers in Egypt, and more prayers<br /> for this darkened world to receive God’s mercy.<br />Thank you dear Bilo for all that you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-42856442966961874612006-12-16T08:54:00.000-05:002006-12-16T08:54:00.000-05:00Anonymous,
Thus far, there is only a press release...Anonymous,<br />Thus far, there is only a press release. The actual court ruling will be available in a few days.<br /><br />Edo River,<br />As you know, for the past eight months there has been a tremendous amount of media coverage already, but now it is going to take on a whole new dimention.Bilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060802520953738221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-82086265106392806072006-12-16T08:23:00.000-05:002006-12-16T08:23:00.000-05:00This has been an opportunity for the local media t...This has been an opportunity for the local media to "meet the Bahais", if it is true only 2000 of 65,000,000 this was a precious, opportunity, for people to have access to information that is reliable, and hear from media outlets that they trust. <br /><br />The Muslim Brotherhood, what another interesting tale. I have followed their history in Utube and Googlevideo from BBC programs.<br /><br />Yes the significance of what has happened will not be understood until the people who were there and have been covering this event are allowed time to expand upon their convictions, doubts, independent investigations of the truth. We will see some light resulting despite the verdict in January, I predict.<br /><br />Edo River risingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29145551.post-3459950024752280572006-12-16T08:03:00.000-05:002006-12-16T08:03:00.000-05:00Could you possibly post the text of the actual (Ar...Could you possibly post the text of the actual (Arabic) court ruling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com